Re: Grafcet and other improvement

[Alexis MARTINI <alexis martini wanadoo fr>]

Lars Clausen wrote:

>On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Alexis MARTINI wrote:
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>>Luc Pionchon wrote:
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>>>On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:03:14 +0100 (BST)
>>>Alan Horkan <horkana@maths.tcd.ie> wrote:
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>>>>On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Alexis MARTINI wrote:
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>>>>>Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:50:47 +0200
>>>>>From: Alexis MARTINI <alexis.martini@wanadoo.fr>
>>>>>Reply-To: dia-list@gnome.org
>>>>>To: dia-list@gnome.org
>>>>>Subject: Grafcet and other improvement
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>>>>>Hello, I am very interesting in using DIA in business. In fact I am an
>>>>>ingenieur in automation and so I used a lot GRAFCET, LADDER and
>>>>>SADT. If you need more knowledg on this ask me.
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>>>>Great, thank you for the generous offer.
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>>>>>But to use it in business, DIA must have some fue improvement, the
>>>>>first, and for me the more important: a cartridge surounding the
>>>>>différent pages, with some information which could be configured by
>>>>>user, and automated
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>>>>I am not sure what you mean by cartridge?
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>>>>>- description, same for all pages
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>>>>I have in mind to add a Properties Dialog where you would be able to set
>>>>things like Description, Subject, Author, Creation Date.
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>>>*this* is the "cartridge" ;)
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>>>(a straight translation from Technical French "cartouche")
>>>une cartouche = cartridge
>>>UN  cartouche = ??? (I do not know neither)
>>>= The box that you draw on each diagram/sketch/plan/drawing,
>>> with company logo, signature, author, date, ...
>>> depending of the standard of the company.
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>>Yes, it is this last deffinition!
>>Oups I am demasked as French people ....
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>Ach, ze French...:)
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>I see what it is you want.  It wouldn't be too hard to have a 'template
>page' behind every page printed, but Dia has little idea of page numbers.
>In fact the split into pages is more of a printing hack than something
>closely tied to the diagram itself, and it'd require a fair amount of
>hacking to get page numbers accessible.
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>>>>These could probably be covered by extra property pairs (name, value)
>>>>added by the user.
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>>>>>I thing it is good to don't see the cartridge all the time, to have it
>>>>>just before printing, in prevue. So it wont split the drawing when
>>>>>making it .
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>>>>There are already lines on the Graph indicating the page edges.
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>>I didn't mind about this unprinted line, bute ligne who will suround
>>the printed page, just like in technical drawing.
>>This is tru for other DIAgrams, like electrical for exemple.
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>You're saying you want some surrounding box-thing?  Can you point us to an
>example of this?
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>>A remarque about this: when repering a cail or a contactor on an
>>electrical diagrams, the referance take a symbole for the element (C
>>or K for contactor, B for detector, D for Dejonctor for exemple) plus
>>the page number and a number which represente the number of the
>>element in the page. For example
>>K100-1 : Kontactor 1 in page 100
>>D201 : Dijoncteur 1 in page 100 ...
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>>Can you do something?
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>At the moment, this is way beyond Dia.  With no page numbers available, and
>no way to indicate them even if they were, we can't do this.  (La)TeX would
>be able to do this easily, but it's a very different system.  I have hopes
>of more interaction with (La)TeX, but in a different (pageless) way.
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>That kind of naming seems rather fragile, tool.  Doesn't that mean that if
>an extra page is inserted, all references to the elements are wrong?  But
>if that's what you're working with...
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>-Lars
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I have an exemple of Grafcet and electrical drawing. At whiwh meal can I 
send it?
It is composed of several .DXF files and a .XLS for the grafcets.

Alexis