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The following archive was created by hippie-mail 7.98617-22 on Sat Apr 10 1999 - 01:18:05
jim finder (jim_finder@hotmail.com)
Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:55:31 CST
"Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com> writes:
>
>
>Missouri FreeNet Administration <measl@mfn.org> writes:
>> :I have been informed by my management that I am mistaken about AT&T
>> :Research
>>
>> And I'm *sure* they would know better than the persons you have
personally
>> talked too ;-)
>
>Mr. Finder *WAS* spewing garbage. It was entirely incorrect. I'm told
>there is one guy in the group he was mentioning at AT&T who has a
>clearance, not "virtually everyone". (Of course, why believe me, I've
>only just bothered to find out from who actually work there.)
>
>Mr. Finder is the same guy who claimed Matt Blaze had been arrested at
>O'Hare Airport for exporting crypto, or doesn't anyone around here
>have any sort of memory? Do reputations count for anything, or are we
>all just blowing smoke on that score?
>
>I don't know if Mr. Finder has any "management" to begin with. His
>previous postings don't lead one to believe he has any accurate
>information to give, and he posts from a Hotmail account. Even if he's
>a real person and not some sort of spoof, he obviously doesn't bother
>to check his facts very well before posting them. Whether he's a real
>guy with an itchy keyboard finger or a fake guy who posts
>disinformation, the result is the same.
>
>Now that we've established that, could everyone do me and everyone
>else QUIT POSTING THIS CRAP TO THE CRYPTOGRAPHY MAILING LIST? I'm not
>forwarding it anyway, and I'm not interested in reading it.
>
>And indeed, could people QUIT POSTING IT TO CodherPlunks? CodherPlunks is
>for *technical cryptography*, not discussions (even if accurate) on
>who's got security clearances.
>
>Perry
>Moderator of cryptography@c2.net for those who don't know.
Perry & Measl:
Give me a break already!
I was mistaken, but not badly so. I was confusing an AT&T crypto
development lab that does work for the government with the AT&T
Research Lab. My supervisor noticed the mistake, and also informed
me that discussion of security issues at AT&T Research Labs is, as
he put it, off limits. I argree that this reaction seem strange,
but I'm not willing to press the point. I don't have a clearence
myself, but my company does have a relationship with AT&T Research
Labs and with various parts of the government, and so that may have
something to do with it. I can't say any more, I'm sorry.
I will stay out of this discussion and I appologize again
for any trouble I may have caused.
Jim
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The following archive was created by hippie-mail 7.98617-22 on Sat Apr 10 1999 - 01:18:05