Re: John Gilmore and the Great Internet Snake Drive

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John Lowry (jlowry@bbn.com)
Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:48:59 -0400

Oh please ...

As you point out, physics is not optional. This is predictable and was
predicted. Yawn.

I predict that 3DES will fall too - actual time it takes is left to the
student.

More interesting, how about a supposition that DNA computers will be able
to factor
interesting numbers within 5 years ? Does that make certain other
algorithms into snake-oil ?

At the heart of this is the idea that "strong" cryptography is a fixed and
finite
set over time and that a change in that set will result in a change in the
policy restricting export. It doesn't necessarily follow. Lobbying is
necessary.

Perhaps all that happens is that DES now joins the crowd of exportable
algorithms :-)

One lesson I plan to observe - don't encrypt known plaintext unless you
have to !

John Lowry

At 04:20 PM 7/17/98 -0400, Robert Hettinga wrote:
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>Congrats to Mr. Gilmore, EFF, et. al. for a very impressive DES crack.
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>It seems that Gilmore and Moore's Law have just turned the
>once-respected DES into cryptographic snake-oil. He keeps hurting
>snakes like that, he's gonna get himself canonized. ;-).
>
>
>Seriously. Many thanks to Mr. Gilmore for proving, once again, that
>lobbying is pointless, and that physics is not optional.
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>Outstanding. Marvellous.
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>Cheers,
>Bob Hettinga
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