Re: More keybindings, 2nd thoughts...

[Alan Horkan <horkana tcd ie>]

Rob Campbell wrote:

>Alan,
>
>That was me:)  <Ctrl>+F would be a good replacement.  But what about plain F
>
Ctrl+F would be more consistant

>Unshifted shortcuts keys don't interfere with Dia's operation, because text
>input is not a typical operation. They only apply to the canvas, so when a
>dialog has the focus, they are overridden.  Likewise, when a note is edited
>directly in the canvas, the shortcuts are correctly overridden.
>
I was wondering if that might cause a conflict, even if it does not it 
could confuse the user if the keybindings _seem_ to stop working when in 
fact something else has just grabbed the focus.  
I actually add a lot of text to my diagrams. its a bit messy since you 
cant select copy cut past the text,
(at least not with the version on Dia im using).  

>Off Topic: It would be nice if Dia had an alternative method of defining
>shortcuts, so that any shortcut could be assigned to any command.  I've
>
If there are particular functions that you think would really be much 
more useful if they had a keybinding then maybe we can figure out a way 
to hook a keybinding on to it (perhaps we might be able to convince 
people that it is worth adding an extra menu item).  
Personally, I found it quite cumbersome to change the color of lots of 
small shapes, but its probably easier with the newer builds which i 
believe allow you to change the properties of multiple object at the 
same time.  (i had a whole group of circles that i was coloring in 
variety of different colors, for a simple artist like myself a grid of 
basic colors would be easier.  I could probably just use the Gnome color 
selector, except of  course when im using MS windows.  

>tried editing the key bindings file (I forgot what it's called) to no avail.
>Am I doing it wrong?  Does GIMP or another GTK+ application have code that
>
Abiword has dynamic menus, to allow plugins to insert a menu item (im 
not sure if that help tho'), first Gnome app' to have it allegedly.     
If you are looking to steal code, then steal the code that writes a dump 
of the current file if the program segfaults (but then you cant use 
bug-buddy)

>can be stolen?  That might be a first project that I could tackle.
>
>I'm looking forward to your key bindings.  Shortcuts are much more efficient
>than menus.
>

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: dia-list-admin@gnome.org [mailto:dia-list-admin@gnome.org]On
>>Behalf Of Alan
>>Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:22 PM
>>To: dia-list@gnome.org
>>Subject: More keybindings, 2nd thoughts...
>>

>>Show All means show all the diagram in the current window,
>>"Fit All" or
>>
"Zoom to Fit" Ctrl+F

>>keybinding will take some getting used to but i just need to Free up
>>Ctrl+A and then i can add Ctrl+Shift+A and Ctrl+I (Select
>>All, None, and Invert respectively).
>>
 From looking at the Gnome Guidlines iI was also considering changing 
Delete to
Clear Ctrl+K
ive got kinda used to using Ctrl+D, but the the Gimp uses Clear Ctrl+K 
and i think it is highly unlikely to conflict with any more useful 
keybindings
Assuming loads of people dont object im going to change that too, 
especially since i know that users can override it if they feel the need.  

(While playing around by setting my own keybindings i realised why 
Delete was not simply the Delete key.  Delete is reserved for clearing a 
Keybinding)

>>[*] this is probaby worth mentioning in the Manual (Customisation
>>section perhaps?)
>>(saying it as much help me to remember to do it as to encourage anyone
>>else to...)
>>
its mentioned in the FAQ.  i should mail the Gnome Documentation Project 
and suggest they include the FAQ as part of the documenatation (and 
maybe a copy of the man page too, if its available in SGML it should be 
dead easy).  
I just realised that middle clicking allows you to add a corner to 
polygons and polylines, ill definately have to update the documentation 
(im just not used to having a middle button, i wonder how MS windows 
users get around i that?)

Could people please make any objections known in the next day or two 
before i write and submit the patch
Thanks

>>Sincerley
>>Alan
>>
i get the feeling im forgetting something, but this message is already 
long enough...