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The following archive was created by hippie-mail 7.98617-22 on Sat Apr 10 1999 - 01:18:02
Mok-Kong Shen (mok-kong.shen@stud.uni-muenchen.de)
Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:20:31 +0100
mgraffam@idsi.net wrote:
>
> On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Mok-Kong Shen wrote:
>
> > First of all, I don't think terminology is that extremely important.
>
> Read sci.crypt for awhile. Pseudo-OTP (and that is _exactly_ what they
> are called, many times) type systems are proposed often. And, FWIW,
> I've never seen a single one of them that wasn't snake oil.
>
> There is an accepted term for what you describe. That term is stream
> cipher. I suppose if you want to make the word OR refer to the concept
> of AND, you can do so.. but asking us to use it, and more to the point..
> trying to convey your concepts to us will surely lead to all types of
> confusion if you do.
>
> > Second, the term pseudo-random numbers is certainly well-established.
> > I can't see why the relation of pseudo-random numbers to (true)
> > random numbers would be of a different nature than the relation
> > of pseudo-OTP (a term I coined) to (true) OTP.
>
> Yeah. But this doesn't change the fact that stream cipher is what we call
> it, and that pseudo-OTP has all sorts of negative connotations that will
> inhibit discussion of the topic. If it is used, I suspect many discussions
> that may otherwise have developed into fruitful technical discussions
> will turn into quarrels over definitions.
So if I had used a term, say 'XYZ stream encoding scheme', for
the 'pseudo-OTP' I used, would that lead to substantial motivation
of yours to contribute discussions on the topic now?
>
> > Your source code whitener, if I understood properly, is meant to
> > break the law without the authority being able to prosecute the
> > offender. My stategy is NOT to break the law at all.
>
> Precisely the the problem with the strategy, IMHO.
There can be DIFFERENT opinions on strtegy. Yours need not be
identical to mine. It would be bad if the world were 'uniform'.
M. K. Shen
The following archive was created by hippie-mail 7.98617-22 on Sat Apr 10 1999 - 01:18:02