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Rob Pinkerton (rpinkert@cadvision.com)
Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:50:25 -0600
this was their reply to my query, telling me that oh well this is how it is...
>Dear Rob,
>
>CADVision does not tolerate spamming. We regularly block domains that send
>spam to CADVision clients. These bans are usually not permanent, but
>persist until such time as the blocked domain's administrators contact us
>and make it clear that they will no longer allow spam to be sent through
>their server.
>
>While we realize that some clients are going to be inconvenienced by this
>ban, a great many more have been inconvenienced by unsolicited
>advertisements and solicitations. We appreciate your understanding on this
>issue.
>
>
>
>At 02:32 PM 10/17/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>the server that is being blocked by you hosts educational mailing lists.
>>(toad.com) the service that you are subscribing to is in error in this case
>>and I would ask that you contack them and discontineu their use until they
>>remov ethis sever from their database. e-mail filtering is not in the
>>cadvision users agreement and would like for you to cease this thankyou.
>>
>>At 09:24 AM 10/17/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>>Dear Rob,
>>>
>>>As part of CADVision's continuing effort to stem the tide of unsolicited
>>>email recieved by our clients, we have implemented the ORBS blocking
>>>system. ORBS stands for the Open Relay Blocking System, and as the name
>>>implies, it prevents mail servers that are open relays from sending mail to
>>>CADVision's mail server. Open relays are a veritable goldmine for junk
>>>mailers, since they can send junk mail through them very easily. Please see
>>>the ORBS homepage at http://www.dorkslayers.com/orbs for more information.
>>>
>>>The error you are receiving is because the mail server the message is
>>>originating from is an open relay, and has been placed on the ORBS blocking
>>>list. The System Administrators must close their open relay before their
>>>server will be allowed to send mail to CADVision or to any other subscriber
>>>to the ORBS system. The administrators of that relay were informed when
>>>they were placed on the list. Email was sent to >>>they were placed on the list. Email was sent to postmaster@theirIP, and to
>>>the contact listed in the SOA record for their domain. Postmaster is a
>>>required address on every mail server for such notices according to RFC 822
>>>article 6.3.
>>>
>>>Please note that CADVision isn't specifically banning that domain, but
>>>rather, we are subscribing to a service that has that domain on it's banned
>>>list.
>>>
>>>The administrators of that mail server will also want to read the pages at
>>>http://www.dorkslayers.com/orbs and close their relay. This is in their
>>>best interest, since open relays are almost always found and exploited by
>>>junk mailers, which results in degraded service for all paying clients.
>>>
>>>
>>>At 09:53 PM 10/16/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>>>well I havent gotten anything from toad.com for comming up a week now. I
>>>>tried the majordomo and got no reply. it almost seems as though my server
>>>>is blocking messages from that domain, but I cant see any GOOD reason for
>>>>them to do that. Could one of the list admins pls see if I am indeed
>>>>subscribed to the list.
>>>>
>>>> thanks a million and could you cc replys to me as well as the list orr
>>>>just me privately?
>>>>At 11:31 AM 10/16/98 +0100, Mike Acpizer wrote:
>>>>>The deal is that there is no deal.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Rob Pinkerton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> hey I havent recieved anything for at leats 4 days from CodherPlunks or
>>>>>> cypherpunks whats the deal?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>If you have any further questions or problems go to the CADVision Homepage
>>>and click on Help. If you can't find the information on your problem then
>>>reply to this message. When responding to this email, please include this
>>>entire message so help us provide better service by reading the progress
>>>of this issue.
>>>
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>>
>>
>If you have any further questions or problems go to the CADVision Homepage
>and click on Help. If you can't find the information on your problem then
>reply to this message. When responding to this email, please include this
>entire message so help us provide better service by reading the progress
>of this issue.
>
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