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The following archive was created by hippie-mail 7.98617-22 on Sat Apr 10 1999 - 01:10:59
TM (messiah@jps.net)
Wed, 19 Aug 1998 06:13:51 -0700 (PDT)
At 2:01 AM -0000 8/19/98, Black Unicorn wrote:
>Why re-invent the wheel?
Because the current version of the wheel is square shaped.
>Why not piggy-back off the existing (and substantial) IRC network? If the
>crypto is end to end then what's it matter what network you're on? Might
>as well leverage existing systems. IRC could be made more secure, and its
>authentication problems could finally be solved if only we had a decent
>client to use.
The IRC protocol, while being very nice, etc, has the main problem of being
centralized. One server, many clients. To create a simple client-server
chat program is simple; to create a decentralized chat program is not.
>Of course, something along the lines of ICQ using TCP/IP and
>encrypted/authenticated would make me salivate just as much, but it strikes
>me that you're much more likely to get participants if you work off the IRC
>network.
Well, it would make more sense for us to add crypto code to an ICQ-clone
than make our own protocol up from the ground.
>Hint: If you REALLY want it to work and gather thousands of users in about
>a weeks time, make sure that IRC style DCC file transfers (encrypted of
>course) are easy to arrange.
Amen. Best to include the functionality users will look for, but improve
the underlying protocol.
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The following archive was created by hippie-mail 7.98617-22 on Sat Apr 10 1999 - 01:10:59