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Martin Grap (mgrap@concord-eracom.de)
Thu, 6 Aug 1998 17:14:04 +0100
>they work. But I am certain the number is on the mag stripe. When I was
>in bloomington IL I used a little funny stand alone ATM. Well when I used
<it it didn't even initiate an outside connection until after I had entered
<my PIN and how much money I wanted. It only used a 14.4kbps modem and I
>could hear it dial.
Well it probably dialled out to verify the PIN after collecting all the
information it needed. So in my opinion the incident you describe does
not prove in any way that the PIN is on the card.
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Martin Grap, Concord-Eracom Computer Security GmbH
Talstrasse 11, D-72218 Wildberg, Germany
Tel. : {+49} (0)7054-9267-0, Fax: {+49} (0)7054-1837
e-mail: mgrap@concord-eracom.de, CE-homepage: http://www.concord-eracom.de
The following archive was created by hippie-mail 7.98617-22 on Sat Apr 10 1999 - 01:10:56