Re: ATM card pins

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Ben (ben@EdelWeb.fr)
Thu, 6 Aug 1998 11:42:12 +0200 (MET DST)


On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Jamen Porteus wrote:

> If the pin is not on the card why do the bank need the card back to
> change it.
> A friend had his pin changed to one of his own choice and they put the
> card in a
> stand-alone reader/writer machine. This was only connected to 240V power

[snip]

> Can anyone else relate to this experience.
> I know my girlfriend can.
> She lost $1000 from an ATM after someone stole her debit/credit card
> with only 3 possible explanations.
> 1. inside bank job
> 2. shoulder surfer got the pin, then stole the card
> 3. smart crim stole the card and decyphered the pin

4. Wrote a new PIN back on to card (see replay attack--i.e. I know the PIN
    for my card so if I copy that sector onto another card I can use the
    same PIN. This of course assumes that this sector is read and used
    in the verification process--something I have no idea about).

Ben.
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