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Michael Paul Johnson (mpj@ebible.org)
Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:55:48 -0600
At 11:06 PM 7/17/98 -0500, Bruce Schneier wrote:
>At 08:02 PM 7/17/98 -0600, Michael Paul Johnson wrote:
>That's not publication. I mean a paper in an academic conference. There is
>no way in the world a committee will accept a cryptanalysis paper on an
>algorithm that is not published. Given that, it makes much more sense for
>me to attempt to cryptanalyze published algorithms and not unpublished ones.
This is no surprise.
>If you want Diamond cryptanalyzed, get the algorithm published.
Actually, I'm kind of ambivalent about that, right now. Diamond 2 serves my
purposes well enough as it is, and I haven't the time to publish it
properly, now.
>>Analysis is indeed an advantage. Of course, not having a cipher be heavily
>>used or highly political is a slight advantage, too.
>
>Disagree.
Maybe you are right. Heavy use and high profile increases adversarial
cryptanalysis and construction of special purpose crackers that you never
learn about, but it also increases friendly cryptanalysis (the kind that
gets published in some way).
...
>>and incorporates some feedback from others. Now is a bad time to try to
>>attract much more analysis, though, because Diamond 2 isn't officially in
>>the running for AES (although it could have been if I put the time into
>>writing it up and porting it to Java, etc.), and there is where much of the
>>energy is going.
>
>Pity. I think you should have put it up as a candidate. I found that the
AES
>submission process tought me more about block cipher design than anything
>else I did.
A pity, indeed.
>Honestly, there are just so many cryptanalysis hours in a day, and there are
>fourteen other AES submissions that deperately need to be broken.
I wish we were so rich in alternative public key algorithms for free use.
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The following archive was created by hippie-mail 7.98617-22 on Fri Aug 21 1998 - 17:20:36 ADT